My grandfather bought a chevy with that olds diesel engine. The base model is fairly well featured as it stands; the $3,850 “Lux” package adds 19-inch wheels, panoramic sunroof, walnut trim, leather seats with 12-way adjustable driver’s sear and electric rear seat releases. Last GM he ever bought. All Touareg TDI models regardless of package have the easy-to-use VW RNS 850 navigation system with iPod/USB integration, Bluetooth and Sirius satellite radio. American shoppers are unable to buy a Touareg on these shores with VW’s “Driver Assistance Pack” which in the Euro-zone contains radar cruise control and a blind spot warning system. The first-generation Touareg was in … Out on the road the 225HP and prodigious torque are more than adequate to get the Touareg moving on a short freeway onramps. Again making the Touareg the livable to tow is the 8-speed ZF automatic. Average economy: 27.7MPG (observed:30.5MPG Highway), #gallery-2 { This redesigned Touareg is not quite as tall as its predecessor, a little longer, a little broader in beam, and a little more aggressive in its stance, thanks to a 1.5-inch increase in track. Mercedes Diesel reliability…. This is not a fault of VW but just a general characteristic of turbo diesels in general, and this is exactly why the 8-speed makes all the difference because it keeps the engine in that sweet spot like previous ZFs VW has used never could making the feel very liveable for an American used to a gasoline vehicle. We have no complaints about the TDI … As of 2011, all diesel passenger cars and trucks that VW sells are 50 state certified and compliant with the EPA’s Tier 2 Bin 5 emission requirements. I can’t honestly imagine that much cross shopping, even with VW’s market position as a main-line brand, but it seemed to be a sensible comparison point in some respects. A winner of the 2011 Best New Canadian SUV/CUV (over 50k), as voted on by members of the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada, the Volkswagen Touareg is based on a platform … Offering gasoline and TDI versions, the 2011 Volkswagen Touareg … Reverting back to being known simply as the Touareg, Volkswagen's new previous crossover vehicle grows slightly in overall length. There is so much torque that it’s challenging to shift smoothly at full acceleration …. This version of the Touareg is a luxury SUV with a quiet and plush interior imparting a truly premium ambiance. I personally think that what you get with the Cayenne over the Treg is perhaps worth all that extra $$. by Old Lawyer from Wood County, West Virginia on Fri Mar 04 2011 I traded in a Cadillac Escalade when I bought the Volkswagen Touareg TDI, Executive trim. Reliable and low-volume European diesels from the 1970s and 1980s? VW still cannot fix the erratic driver’s seat, the rep is “unavailable”. Of course, not available in North America. Being caught behind one is about as much fun as being caught behind a bus. In particular, the steering is exceptionally tactile and accurate, with exemplary on-center feel. The torque of the diesel is truly sumptuous, and … I would prefer such a system to be mounted higher on the dash thereby increasing the ease of use (and lowering distraction) while driving. Harder to price, but definitely worth considering is that the purchase of the more fuel-efficient version of any vehicle (diesel, hybrid) also serves to hedge future fuel price increases during the time of ownership of the vehicle. 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Volkswagen hasn’t always been known for shrewd product planning—consider the Passat W-8, or better, the Phaeton—but the new Touareg looks like a triumphal strategic SUV symphony in three keys: regular gas engine, hybrid, and diesel. The VW is a nice vehicle, but isn’t outstanding in any way (aside from the TDI’s EPA ratings) and its price tag is steep. I was impressed by the ride. How about throwing this engine/transmission combo into the A5, A7, and A6? It boasts impressive fuel economy by 2.5-ton-SUV standards, as well as flood-tide torque. The latest version of VW’s navigation software continues to be touch-driven in contrast to Mercedes’ COMMAND system, BMW’s iDrive and even VAG’s own Audi brand’s MMI. Compared to the base V6 Touareg, this represents a 24% increase in observed fuel economy for a $3,000 premium. The only experience I have had with them is years ago of sitting behind city buses, eating all that smoky, dark, high particulate matter the tailpipe spewed when they eventually got going after making each stop, until I could either turn or pass them and stay away – far away. But if you don’t mind spending an extra blink getting to 60 mph—6.9 seconds versus the hybrid’s 5.9—and you don’t mind saving a pretty nice chunk of dough in the process, then the diesel may be the alt-fuel Touareg for you. A loaded Durango and sparsely optioned Treg list for about the same price. ), proceeded to convert it to running on cooking grease, thereby voiding his warranty, having the system utterly fail, and spending who-knows-what re-converting to diesel only again. Shortly after the Geneva Auto Show we had the opportunity to drive Volkswagen's new 2011 Touareg in Florence, Italy. 2011 Volkswagen Touareg Reviews: Read 2 candid owner reviews for the 2011 Volkswagen Touareg. The Porsche starts at $48K with the gas engine and that also gives you something I don’t think is available at all on the Touareg, A Manual Transmission. Exactly as Bytor says “If you look at the torque curve of the 2.0L TDI vs 2.0L TSI, the Torque starts nice and low on both, but it starts falling much sooner(~2500 RPM) on the TDI and it stays relatively flat on the TSI almost to the point where the TDI redlines (where it has dropped significantly on the TDI) then the the TSI does start dropping and but keeps going for another 2000 more RPM.”. For reference this more torque than the 380HP supercharged hybrid Touareg we tested in January SUV making it the “torquiest” Touareg on these shores. Personally I’ll stick to gasoline. Only watching Mercedes through the years. Big and frugal. Since my dad was a glutton for punishment, this was not his first unreliable GM diesel; we also had a 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser with the infamous diesel V8. The transmission is an eight-speed automatic. Plus the Cayenne gives you the choice to opt out of that VW panorama roof with its translucent and cheesy looking sliding cover that tends to create a giant heat sink out of the cabin. During out week with the Touareg we averaged 27.7MPG in mixed driving on the first tank, an impressive 30.5MPG on a 160-mile road trip, and 16.5MPG while towing two-tons of bricks. Braking, 70-0 mph: 177 ft, FUEL ECONOMY: For the 2011 Touareg some owners have signed up to help with the Car Reliability Survey, but more remain needed. Search … I’ll bet it was quite a relief not having to plug this puppy in every time you parked it! The result is a car that many feel is better looking than its Porsche cousin, the Cayenne, and which also features a wide range of powerpl… Calculate the fuel savings over 3/4/5 years (or however long you keep a car), and determine the expected additional depreciation (add interest cost if sufficiently motivated). I heartily agree. Are you in Ontario as well? The resulting feel seems well suited to the diesel engine while the same transmission in the hybrid left me occasionally asking what was wrong with the 6-speed. Stepping up to the “Executive package” we tested gets the buyer 20-inch rubber, heated steering wheel, heated rear seats, keyless entry & go, parking sensors and the up-level Dynaudio sound system. Best line ever. Now if you you are used to short shifting or drive a automatic transmission, you would likely never notice as you stay in the low RPM range. On cold mornings I did notice a tiny hint of vibration and clatter when the engine first started, but after a few seconds the engine quiets down to a purr smoother than I thought a diesel was capable of. #gallery-2 .gallery-item { $50K – $60K for an SUV? This is pretty standard diesel vs petrol behavior. Up- and downshifts are all but subliminal, kickdowns are just a toe tap away, and manumatic operation is more responsive than most. Not sure why the Rubicon comment was included. Get 2011 Volkswagen Touareg values, consumer reviews, safety ratings, and find cars for sale near you. I look forward to your look at the Durango. Nice review Alex. MPGomatic.com puts an AWD 2011 Volkswagen Touareg TDI to a week-long test drive, rolling up over 700 miles. In addition the Treg’s brakes are pathetic by comparison. 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I was puzzled by the behavior of the all wheel drive system in about eight inches of snow; not linear at all. VW Touareg 4.2 TDi Altitude review By Robert Couldwell on December 17, 2011 in Car Reviews 2011 , Volkswagen No footballers, no drug dealers – just good, classless, neutral image … I’ve only driven a 4-cyl TDI (140hp 2.0 clean diesel) but my experience has been the opposite – torque curve on those is very broad compared to any gas-turbo I’ve driven. Top speed (governor limited): 125 mph It’s great that the Touareg’s telematics system receives traffic information, however unlike most modern systems VW chose not to overlay the map with colored lined to indicate traffic speeds on major highways. Interesting that you compare the Touareg to the Durango a few times, because just last week I drove a Touareg with the VR6 engine to provide one reference point for the Durango I had for a week–review of the latter on Friday. The only person that believes these cars reliable is the person that has never owned one, or is trying to convince themselves their car is something it is not. I did need two new vacuum pumps during that time (no engine vacuum to run all of the then non-electric door locks, HVAC 6 CD in-dash changer now available but only without navigation. In recent years, the diesel pickups that roar away obnoxiously because their drivers think they’re in a NASCAR vehicle fantasizing. Brake-pedal feel is also excellent, although the braking distance from 70 to 0 mph is so-so at 177 feet. Standing ¼-mile: 15.9 sec @ 85 mph I realize there’s no TDI choice with the Pepper, but the driving characteristics are just so much better than the Treg. The diesel Touareg is rated to tow a segment leading 7,700lbs which is nothing to sniff at. VW has been trying hard to overcome perceptions of diesels for some time with varying tactics. VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door wagon, PRICE AS TESTED: $58,320 (base price: $48,770), ENGINE TYPE: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve diesel V-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection, Displacement: 181 cu in, 2967 cc Power: 225 bhp @ 4000 rpm Torque: 406 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm, TRANSMISSION: 8-speed automatic with manumatic shifting, DIMENSIONS:Wheelbase: 113.9 in Length: 188.8 in Width: 76.4 in Height: 68.2 in Curb weight: 5186 lb, C/D TEST RESULTS: The Touareg… VW’s latest Navigation uses a bright, high resolution eight-inch color touch-screen display that is easy to read even in direct sunlight. It’s visual only. With navigation there’s only a single CD player available. As a longtime diesel promoter, Volkswagen’s interest in hybrids has been strictly competitive, its corporate line an assertion that diesel is the better fuel-saving alternative. Reliability is a big unknown for both of these all-new vehicles. Missing out on a huge slug of the burgeoning American 'Sports Utility' market didn't sit happily with the top brass at Volkswagen and sharing a good deal of the chassis development budget with Porsche also helped to defray spiralling costs. 2011 Volkswagen Touareg 2011 V6 FSI Pricing and Specs: V6 TDI: 3.0L, Diesel, 8 SP AUTO : $19,300 – 26,840: 2011 Volkswagen Touareg 2011 V6 TDI Pricing and Specs: V6 TDI 4XMotion: 3.0L, Diesel, 8 SP AUTO : $21,000 – 28,490: 2011 Volkswagen Touareg 2011 V6 TDI … Old Mercedes diesels, dump trucks and buses will still not be fun to be behind, but as older vehicles are retired, they’ll be replaced with cleaner engines since the new regulations also affect heavy trucks. Learn more about the 2011 Volkswagen Touareg. Really expensive mistake. California also has a higher diesel fuel spec than the rest of the US, if I am not mistaken, because of air quality regs. The Touareg TDI is not your father’s Oldsmobile. Consider this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_R10_TDI. I am a bit surprised by your comment about the engine’s “relatively narrow powerband (compared to a turbocharged gasoline engine)” – could you elaborate? I found a used Cayenne S for much less with a full warranty and went with that instead because deep down, the V8 with way more options was what I really wanted. Also then diesel was cheaper than regular unleaded. Dash parts are suitably squishy, panels are aligned with Germanic precision and if it weren’t for the two-letter logo on the steering wheel you’d think you were inside a modern Audi. First it gets amazing gas mileage for size, weight and performance. Sure, Porsche’s options are wallet killers but if you’re disciplined, a decently optioned Cayenne (V6) still gives you more good stuff than the decontented Treg, which isn’t exactly cheap either. After about 30,000 miles, both our diesels smoked like a 60 year old hooker. The heart of the matter here, of course, is VW’s 3.0-liter turbo-diesel. In this case, it is a delightful turbocharged 3.0-litre direct … It’s joined this year by a new eight-speed Tiptronic automatic, and the combination results in a very smooth operator, indeed. IOW, the break-even point may be 75k miles at today’s fuel prices, but could be less if fuel prices go up (or, of course more, if fuel prices decline). The new Touareg TDI is VW’s latest attempt to prove that 90% of Americans could live with a diesel every day. The Touareg is a car that Volkswagen couldn't afford not to build. Off road, the TDI is (as one would expect), an excellent companion having well suited gear ratios and abundant torque at low speeds for crawling up steep inclines. The new Touareg TDI is VW’s … I think that means it doesn’t make a lot of sense economically then in the US, so you’d have to buy it for the characteristics (torque, range). vent open-close gadgets). Not only did VW decide to keep the more capable 4xMotion 4WD system with low range a Euro-only option, but the adjustable-height suspension remains off-limits for American Shoppers. (European buyers are able to spec a 4.2L V8 which wins the torque award by a hair.). US buyers are also treated to a fairly ridiculous looking collapsible spare tire. Pardon me for asking, but what is a collapsible spare tire? I hope some believers show up with their AWD crossover VWs and learn about hype. I think it runs pretty well, now! Still, if the era of high-fuel prices turns out to be our permanent future, VW’s TDI SUV makes a compelling alternative. After the generously proportioned first-generation Touareg the second-generation model released in 2011 emerged lighter and much sleeker. While I was unable to test cold-winter starts since I live in sunny California, morning temperatures were around 31 degrees the week the TDI slept in my driveway. Our tester was not equipped with a class three hitch, but my local VW dealer as kind enough to loan me a Touareg TDI properly equipped for some mountain towing fun. EPA city/highway driving: 19/28 mpg C/D observed: 21 mpg, Honda to Show Off-Road Fit at Virtual Tokyo Salon, 2022 Ford Maverick Could Be a True Compact Truck, Every New Car You Can Still Buy with a Stick Shift, I Powered My House with the Ford F-150 Hybrid. At 225HP, and 406lb-ft of twist they might just be on to something. 2011 VW Touareg V6 Tdi Starting Problems . margin: auto; You can have your cake and eat it to. EDIT: Oh yeah…a friend who a few years ago purchased one of the last diesel VW Jettas before diesel engines were banned here(? The Touareg TDI uses the same engine as its close cousin the Audi Q7. One of the ways VW has accomplished this price reduction is by discontenting and bundling options together into packages. This redesigned Touareg is not quite as tall as its predecessor, a little longer, a little broader in beam, and a little more aggressive in its stance, thanks to a 1.5-inch increase in track. I’ve driven an A5 with the 3.0 TDI (albeit with a 6-speed manual) and an A6 with the same (with the Multitronic CVT). There are a lot of vintage Mercedes diesels around here. The Cayenne actually lives up to the ‘sport’ part of SUV. Which is why I’m holding on to my Jetta TDI for a while longer. Compared to BMW’s latest iDrive however the VW system seems less polished. … Out here on the left coast, the cost of premium to fuel your base Touareg averaged $4.41 on 4/18/2011 and diesel was $4.48 (according to the CA Energy Commission), making the break-even point somewhere around 75,000 miles depending on your driving style. 10K miles according to the owner’s manual. If you’re shopping for a Touareg, just walk right past that base V6 model on the floor and give the TDI a try. 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